Republic Indoctrination  

 

Joe.Roland
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15/10/2018 11:32 pm  

Basics: 34 people in the class, they start class every two weeks (ish), and are on track to train over 750 in 2018, for a pilot group hovering around 2000. Obviously there's some attrition to LCCs, ULCCs, and the majors, and Republic is trying to keep pace. Class is from 0800-1700 M-W (only three days due to lack of sims, more on that in a bit).

Schedule:

HR Briefs - non-rev benefits, income tax elections, general new-hire paperwork, etc.

Lunch - Catered at the HQ by Olive Garden. Toward the end of lunch the training team came by and...

Training team info drop - Two members of the training team came by and answered questions, spoke to individuals about logbook times for R-ATP mins, and gave general guidance for what to study/prep for training in January. Yes, I said January.  Yes, it's October. Yes, your seniority starts today, and yes, you're getting paid while you wait.

Drug Testing/Finger Printing/Uniform ordering round-robin.  Class was split into four sections (not very orderly, just you guys go there, and you other guys go over there) to cover two uniform stations (shirts/trousers/coat and overcoat/luggage/hat), a drug testing station and a finger printing station.

President/Vice-President welcome and Q&A - the President (Bryan Bedford) and one of the VPs (Matt Koscal) came by to welcome us, tell us a bit about the company and run a little Q&A direct to company leadership. At this point I think we had officially been employees for six hours. They normally do this on day two, but they had a lot of meetings with our codeshare partners later this week and were heading out tonight.

 

Overall perspective from the day, Republic seems to be a place at which people are happy to work. According to the President, our codeshare partners are extremely pleased with Republic and have no desire to move any flying away from us, probably due to the reported 99.95% controllable cancellation rating (something like that, I didn't have any paper to take notes on), and the fact that people generally enjoy working there.  The Army could learn something from that, for sure...

Republic is ordering another 100 aircraft to add to the 190 they already have, but they won't start taking delivery until 2020.  In the meantime, they're exploring options to buy used E175s, so if you know a guy... From what I gathered from the President and VP, one of Republic's biggest concerns is simulators, and they're trying to get access to their own simulators to solve that problem instead of renting simulators from Flight Safety like most airlines do. This process isn't solved overnight (I fought this CH47F beast at Ft. Rucker three years ago), and the lead time right now is about two years to delivery.  But they recognize it, and they're working to correct it, which should make anyone in the Army happy right now... at least they're not employing the bury-your-head-in-the-sand-and-you-won't-see-problems technique the Army is using. Speaking of problems...

According to the President, Republic sends out frequent how-are-we-doing-at-X surveys that don't take very long to fill out, then they use that information to make X better. I received one of these surveys before the shuttle got us back to the hotel. It's a ten-minute drive. I've literally worked one nine hour shift of admin stuff and they already want to know my opinion of the company. If the Army wanted your opinion on anything they'd make you turn it in at CIF so they could put it in a giant bin with the rest of the useless equipment... Republic uses the information on these surveys to create solutions, not just give a place to vent. A few years ago, people complained that they weren't sure they were getting paid the appropriate amount (pay is ... complex, to say the least, at an airline), so Republic created a system where you can look at a huge amount of data based on how much you're scheduled to fly, how much you've flown over/under that, days you've used sick leave or PDOs (Paid Days Off), etc. HR walked us through it in the morning and it's... complex. There's a LOT of information there, but it's broken down pretty well, and all this can be accessed on the intranet, which I believe can be accessed from your house.  Or the company-issued iPad. This entire system came about because of complaints from their surveys, they created a solution, and now there's no complaints.

Republic is ramping up hiring (I'm pretty sure most regionals are), not just to replace attrition, but to grow the airline.  Another 100 aircraft will require more pilots, but Republic is also being choosier about who they pick. I know that seems counter-intuitive, but Republic isn't lacking for pilot applicants, and I attribute that to two things. Pay is second to only Endeavor (for FOs, the CA pay at Republic caps out higher), and QOL is second only to no one. I base this on the current CBA and its laundry list of trip rigs, duty rigs, deadhead pay, min day pay, and lack of junior manning. There's no reason to not go to Republic other than the sticking point for 90% of the Army: they don't have an RTP. There are things that they're working on in that regard, but I don't know how much of that I'd be at liberty to talk about, so I simply won't. 

Since I didn't talk much about the uniform round-robin, I'll talk about it here. Republic buys your uniforms. Period. By "buys your uniforms", I mean, trousers, shirts, tie, coat, hat, overcoat, and two pieces of luggage.  Luggageworks luggage. One large piece like the stealth 22 inch pilot bag in steel, aluminum, or plastic if you're bold. I don't know of anyone that got anything other than that for the large piece, though they had a slightly smaller bag available. Then there were also several other, smaller, bags that you could choose from that would easily fit a computer, iPad, and several other things, with J clips to keep it attached to your pilot bag while you're rolling through the airport. All shipped to your house in about a month. The only exception to the list of free stuff is in the overcoat. There are two options, one being the (free) black trench coat that looks like the same thing you were issued to go with your greens in basic (I'm dating myself here, I know), and the other is a three-in-one coat that costs a $100 upgrade fee. It's worth it, according to everyone there, though. And if that's the only thing I'm out of pocket for so far, I think I'm doing pretty good. Also, that's the only thing I'm out of pocket for.

Training delays at Republic: As mentioned above, Republic is trying to grow the company and is looking for more pilots. With this they've been recruiting heavily and successfully, but because of the lack of E175 simulators and the heavy demand for them, Republic isn't able to get people into training as quickly as they'd hoped. Instead of delaying classes and telling people they won't be starting when they expected, they'll be delayed until a much later date (January in my case), Republic has opted to bring everyone in for a three day abbreviated indoctrination to set up HR paperwork and get seniority numbers set.  With all of this, it means that pay starts as well.  That's right, we are being sent home Thursday with an iPad to study the FOM and SOP until our class date is set and we come back in January, with pay. In addition to this, Republic has identified a conflict of time management in the ATP certification process and is paying to correct it. If you arrive at an airline with 25 hours of Multi-Engine time, you will require all 25 hours of simulator time to be eligible to take the ATP oral on the same day as the ATP practical. If you arrive with 50 hours of Multi-Engine time, you can study for and take the ATP oral prior to starting the simulator, so your entire training focus can be figuring out how to fly the airplane instead of splitting your study time between the ATP oral and ATP practical. So Republic is sending us home to log the remaining time during our "study period" so that we can take the ATP oral prior to starting in the simulator. Oh, and paying for it. Oh, and paying us while we do it. This is a complete culture-shock from the Army where we'll threaten to FEB someone because we failed to give them the opportunity to succeed, then really just string along a poor performer that can't get enough training to be useful because an actual FEB would be hard work. I'm almost scared at how much Republic puts effort and money into ensuring we're successful.

Tomorrow we're issued our company iPads for EFBs complete with everything we need to start studying, but missing the Ethos systems training software as they want us focusing on SOP and FOM material prior to starting training. As we get to more and more company-specific stuff, I'll start broadening what I say about it as this is how Republic does business, not anyone else, and more importantly, it's how Republic does business, so I'll just not go into detail on all that.

 


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Threatlevel0000
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16/10/2018 5:22 pm  

Great breakdown Papa-Joe!  (What we called him back in Hawaii during his 15 year tenure lol).  Republic is tops on my list of choice airlines. The not having an RTP part doesn't change my desire to come, I'll just come up with a different plan to get there (Infinity).

Did they go into how they pay open time?  I know EDV is 150% on all open time.  Does the trip have to be flagged for it to go premium when you bid for it in open time and thus be paid at 150%?

When do travel benefits kick in and is there an annual fee for the flight privileges on DL, UA, and AA?  Whats the priority when listing for a seat vs other carriers employee's?

Which bases were offered to new hires or is it too far out for them to know that yet?

Thanks for the info and the post!


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Lindsey
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16/10/2018 8:28 pm  

This post is great! Keep up the updates JR!


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Joe.Roland
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16/10/2018 11:34 pm  

Day Two:

iPads issued, 32GB Ipad Air2 with LTE capability (no sim card, no data plan, they're currently working through carriers for plans that aren't retarded expensive).  Along with the iPad came a case, neoprene sleeve, 12,000mah power bank, two usb charging adapters (one apple, one generic) and a lightning cable. They want the iPad back when you leave, and if something happens to it, they'll get you a new one unless they can prove it was broken and you weren't using it in regard to your duties as a pilot.

Most of the morning was spent with the iPad program coordinator and an IT guy installing software and learning how to use it. Republic is a tech-heavy company and has invested a good bit of money into some of the software that they use, and we went over installing each app, logging into each app, and getting a quick tour over each app.  The one we got a lot out of was going in-depth in comply-365. While I don't think this app was written exclusively for Republic, it's what they use to keep track of pubs.  Think of this as the location on your iPad where you would find all of the things you need to fly in the Army from SOP, FOM (Operators Manual), MEL, reading card file, etc. Since we have two months off to study, knowing your way around comply-365 will help.

After the IT-iPad installfest, we were visited by the liaison of Corporate and Community Responsibility, which is a really big title for the person that runs the charitable events that Republic is involved in. And there are quite a few programs that Republic is behind with plane pulls (tug of war with an Embraer 175 where teams compete for fastest times to pull the aircraft a certain distance), a village rebuilding in Haiti, and a few others. She was also interested in any ideas for charitable events that anyone else had, as Republic seems to care a lot about community and listed three pillars for their charitable programs; Children, Health, and Military/Veterans.

After this we had some time to kill, so the iPad program manager fielded questions about the line, life as a pilot, whatever we came up with. We broke for lunch, which was catered again, but really only because the executive staff usually shows on day two. After lunch we covered HR sexual harassment in the workplace stuff (90 minutes of SHARP, if you were thinking escaping the Army would get you out of this, you're mistaken, the Army is a large corporation, and so is pretty much any airline you're going to...). Finally we wrapped the day up with a safety brief.  Okay, not really, it was more about safety programs, OSHA, all the fun things that are required to happen in a large company.

Overall, it was a less fascinating day, but still started off with Christmas presents in an iPad and a bunch of gadgets for it.


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mckinneymt
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20/10/2018 4:06 pm  

Great writeups. I’m interested in Republic as well. I have been in contact with a Republic recruiter and she told me that it is company policy that you must 50 hours of ME prior to starting training, and you are authorized to use 6 from the ATP CTP course. I have 21 so that leaves me needing 23. She also told me that once you have a CJO they will give you the $17,500 bonus and you can use that towards the training. That is the flight time initiative. Do you know if the 50 hour requirement is a recent change? Are you having to having to use the bonus for the additional 25 hours?  


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Chipd512
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20/10/2018 6:53 pm  

I start indoc on 1/22.

During indoc, did they brief the policy on maintaining outside employement while waiting for training to resume. 

If able, I would like to keep my fed gov position while waiting. 

 


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mckinneymt
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21/10/2018 3:56 pm  

Or did they brief on when the simulator problem will be fixed?  


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Boresight
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29/10/2018 11:13 am  

Hi all, I started at Republic in Sep. I’m on “hold” until mid-Nov when I head back to finish training...

To answer a few questions:

1. Flight benefits — you have to purchase flight benefits with all 3 legacies. DAL is $50 and is good for a year based on Date of Hire. AAL an UAL are $50/ eligible person and are based on calendar year. So for me, I only activated DAL benefits and may or may not activate the others depending on if I think I will use them next year.

 

2. Outside Employment — they only mentioned that they do not want to flying as a CFI ( ie: don’t jeopardize your license)

 

3. No word on when the sim problem will be fixed. The sim building process is slow because most of the parts production goes to new AC or fixing current fleets.

 


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Joe.Roland
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11/12/2018 12:18 am  

Threatlevel0000: From my recruiter about nine months ago, open time is at 150%, if they put the red flag on it, it becomes 200%.  something like that.  I have access to see the open time with my iPad, but since i haven't started systems yet, it turns out they won't let me pick up open time... 🙁

Boresight covered travel benefits pretty well.  They're supposed to kick in at 30 days after date of hire, I didn't check until day 31, but I've heard that Delta/United might have them up for you pretty quickly.  Sorry I missed the chance to check that. AAL, from what I hear, might take a little longer than 30 days.  I didn't sign up for it, so I don't know. Boresights numbers are pretty accurate, I think I paid $437 for United/AAL for 2019, after a "convenience fee" and taxes or something like that for my family of four.

Your priority on the carrier will always be last, unless it happens to be operated by your airline (I get priority over United if I'm on a Republic aircraft flying from IAH to IND, even though it's flying for United). On the other hand, if you're trying to jump on a United 737 from IAH to ORD, a flight attendants mother will have priority over you.  As well as their spouse, children, father, and anyone else they sign up, as long as they work for United. There's different levels of passes for airlines, and yours is always lowest priority unless your airline is operating the flight. If it's you vs. a SkyWest pilot, it's first come, first served.

I honestly don't recall all the bases that were assigned, but I was given PIT in October.  Given you request a base change three months out, I requested IAH-ORD-MCI in that order, and was awarded MCI in November. So based on how long training has been extended, I'll likely be going straight to MCI after training is complete. Looking at base awards for December, I'm about 200 people (~10% of the pilot group) away from being senior enough to be awarded IAH.  That doesn't mean I'll be senior enough to hold a line when I get there.

 

mckinneymt: My CJO came from late July, my start date ended up being 15 OCT (hence the original post dates). At the time they had the same requirements as everyone else: ME ATP eligible with the 25hrs sim you'll get at Republic, which meant you needed a CMEL and 25 total hours in ME aircraft (specific to ME, there are other requirements, but not important for this piece).  When I went to ATP-CTP, my stick buddy was forced to use some of his FTI/bonus to get to 50 total hours.  The purpose in this was to allow him to take the ATP oral prior to starting the simulator, thus allowing him to focus exclusively on maneuvers in the sim instead of being really smart on ATP regulations on the same day. I was never told anything. When I showed up, Republic was paying for the flight time for people to get to 50 hours ME so they could meet that requirement to take the ATP oral early. I can't tell you what they're doing right now, but another friend of mine is in the three-day mini-indoc right now, and he's in the same position.  He had a CJO before I did, so it might be based on when you were offered the job. My best answer on this is two-fold, and both cryptic: "I don't know", and  "it depends" on whether that has changed since my CJO was given in late July. Sorry I can't be more help. As for the sim, there was no brief on when it will be fixed, but Republic is seeking a long-term solution instead of just looking at the 5 meter target. The goal is that they buy their own sims and won't have to rely on outsourcing sim requirements and getting leftovers from other E175 operators.

 

Chipd512: As part of employment with Republic, they lay claim to all of your Commercial flying priveleges.  The purpose of this is part 117 requirements for crew rest and duty periods involve all of your CFI, life flight, or any fly-for-pay you might do.  I don't think Republic cares one iota about what you do for additional employment, providing it doesn't interfere with your assigned schedule or require commercial pilot privileges. There is no system in place for Republic to track how many hours you log at a job that isn't at Republic, and with ~2000 pilots, it's a bit of an endeavor to allow those with CFI Certificates to teach and manage all the non-Republic time that's flown.  It's just easier to make a blanket statement then use their SOP as a safety net and point the finger at your certificates if the FAA finds out you've flown 103 hours this month, or 1007 hours this past calendar year.


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mckinneymt
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11/12/2018 9:50 pm  

Good information. I can shed a little more light on the situation. I first contacted a recruiter a couple of months ago she told me to get back with her around Jan-Feb since I have an availability date of June. A few weeks ago she wrote me and told me that they had extended their interview process out to a year because of the training delay and they were filling classes for June so I could apply now. I did and she called the day after Thanksgiving break. I have an interview next Wednesday in Indianapolis. Needless to say I'm a little nervous because I haven't had a job interview in about 25 years. Anyway, they do want the 50 hours ME but credit the 6 that you get in the CTP course so personally I will need 23. They will give you the bonus up front as part of their flight time initiative in order to finish your ratings and they'll credit the 6 you get in the CTP course towards the 50 so you need 44 hours ME prior to CTP. Once again, since I need 23 hours I figure I might as well get my MEI. 

Last week I was reading a forum on airline pilot central about Republic and it said that classes for August were filling up. I wrote the recruiter back and asked if that were true and she said that they are now up to October. Like Envoy was last summer, they are now short captains and they are using the sims for 2 or 3 months this spring for upgrades so all FO classes are pushed back. She told me that if I get a CJO then she can put me on a wait list for an earlier class. Now she didn't specify if the start date was actual class or indoc. From what I understand indoc is your official start date with the company and you get paid from then on. 

Apparently this is an E175 problem. I talked to a friend of mine that flies for Envoy and he told me that they also have a delay of 2-4 weeks.  


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mckinneymt
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22/12/2018 1:03 pm  

I went to the interview the other day and got a CJO. When the recruiter called me to tell me the news she told me that she had told me wrong about the 50 hour multi-engine requirement. If you go in under the restricted ATP you only need 25 hours ME. Now for the bad news. They are taking all of Feb and March to train captains so all of their sim time is going to be upgrade training. The new hire start dates are pushed back until November at the moment. She told us that the company is looking at doing some things to change that and she doesn't expect it is going to be that long but officially it is Nov.  Republic is looking at the long haul. They are buying their own sims so they won't have this problem again.

I would encourage anyone on here to take a good look at Republic, especially if you are 9 months to a year out. They don't have an RTP but there is the GI Bill, and they will give you the $17,500 bonus up front to use for flight training. Their pay scale is close to what Endeavor is paying, and their medical, dental, and vision are paid by the company for the most part. I think dental is $30 a month. Also, 401k starts 1 month after the hire date with 3% matching and immediate vesting. As stated earlier they give you uniforms and EFB plus they give you extras every year for upkeep. They have 190 E175s and are getting 100 more with an option for 100 more after that. They are growing and want to expand out west.


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23/12/2018 12:26 pm  
Posted by: Joe.Roland

 

Your priority on the carrier will always be last, unless it happens to be operated by your airline (I get priority over United if I'm on a Republic aircraft flying from IAH to IND, even though it's flying for United). On the other hand, if you're trying to jump on a United 737 from IAH to ORD, a flight attendants mother will have priority over you.  As well as their spouse, children, father, and anyone else they sign up, as long as they work for United. There's different levels of passes for airlines, and yours is always lowest priority unless your airline is operating the flight. If it's you vs. a SkyWest pilot, it's first come, first served.

I want to clarify a few things for perspective new airline folks.

Non-Rev travel and Jumpseat.  Two different things. 

Non-rev, is a non-revenue ticket.  Airlines will charge you a low fee, (in the case of United it'll be like $15 to fly IAH-ORD). Your priority is pretty low, as Joe stated.  You are a feed employee, and your status amongst other non-revs is horrible. Back of the list, as Joe stated.

Jumpseat:

Different animal.  You are part of a database of known "trusted" pilots.  It's call CASS (Cockpit Access Security System) It has your airline information for the customer service agent to verify your status as an airline pilot.  You, as an airline pilot, have the privilege to sit in the cockpit jumpseat at the discretion of the captain.  It is their seat, not the customer service agents, whereas the seats in the back are assigned by the CSA. 

Your union or "association" should provide you a class on how to jumpseat and etiquette.  I won't go in to detail. 

Your priority on the jumpseat list is entirely more complicated than as a non-rev.

There are 3 groups of jumpseaters:

Own metal: your company aircraft flying.  Your priority is always highest, unless someone more senior (on the pilot seniority list) comes up to list for the jumpseat.

Feed/partner: This would be mainline or another feeder.  Generally your priority is the time of checkin at the counter. If a mainline bubba and you arrive at the gate, 99% of the time it's determined by "time of check-in." however the rules for the jumpseat at Skywest might be different than Republic, than Air Wisconsin.  Again, it's up to the captain to figure it out. 

Lastly, "Other Airline":  This is someone not partnered with Republic, ie Spirit or JetBlue, etc...  For this, it's time of check-in regardless of who you work for. See "own metal" for any disparities. 

 

Have a read through here:

http://www.jumpseatinfo.org

 

Sprirt ORD A320 Captain
CW2 UH60 AMSO
SPA ALPA Mil Rep


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Joe.Roland
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23/12/2018 3:54 pm  

Reeves: thanks for the differentiation. I hadn't thought about the jumpseat because, without an ATP (yet), I'm not qualified to ride in the jumpseat... Also, the original question was on "flight benefits" and when they kick in.  If you happened to have an ATP already, you'd be qualified at day one of employment to ride in the jumpseat, but that won't apply to most of the RTAG folks, at least not until they're qualified with the appropriate certifications.


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Joe.Roland
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23/12/2018 3:58 pm  

mckinneymt: It's about $500/month for my family of four for health insurance. I won't negate that a large portion is probably paid by Republic, but I would refrain from statements like "it's paid for by the company, for the most part"... it very much isn't paid for in it's entirety, and for those of us coming right out of active duty, $500/month out of a paycheck that's only 2/3 the size of what I was making in the Army, that could be a bit misleading... 🙄 


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mckinneymt
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23/12/2018 5:20 pm  

Sorry, wasn't trying to be misleading. At the briefing we were talking about medical, dental, and vision and one of the FOs answered "it's paid by the company". I just looked at the benefits sheet and I think he was talking about vision. There were a lot of questions and I must have confused some of the answers. According to my sheet, medical is definitely not completely paid by the company but it says vision is free, along with dental for the associate only. Dental for family isn't very expensive though. Regardless, I was impressed with the company and from what I have seen they have the best, or at least one of the best benefits packages. Once again, didn't mean to mislead anyone.


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