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Sapperintheskies
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29/09/2018 9:57 am  

Just started at Hillsboro Aero Academy for Horizon RTP. Going from zero to hero here. If anyone is thinking about Horizon but has questions just holler!


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Mark Warfield
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29/09/2018 1:31 pm  

You'll be done by the time I get there!


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Lindsey
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29/09/2018 1:36 pm  

@sapperintheskies what made you choose Hillsboro over the other schools that Horizon partners with (Galvin and Rainier)? Location or other factors? What won you over with Horizon versus other regionals with similar domiciles? I'm sure you'll have other folks curious about your journey. Have fun and post up pictures in here too! 


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Sapperintheskies
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29/09/2018 4:32 pm  

All great Q’s. The biggest reason for choosing Hillsboro was the overall costs associated with my training. Going from zero airplane time to CMEL in Oregon was about 20K cheaper than doing it at Galvin in Seattle. Hillsboro just completed an audit as well so the GI Bill was back on the table. So it was really between Galvin and Hillsboro from the beginning. Rainer does not have the GI Bill option. Having to train at a partner school was one of the downsides to Horizon’s RTP but the geographic locations of their domiciles were far more attractive to me having to commute from Alaska for the first 18-24 months. I really wanted to remain in the West. The Pilot Pathways program was also a huge deciding factor me me. Flying for Alaska Airlines was my ultimate goal. Couldn’t ask for a better opportunity. The professionalism and courtesy shown to me at the interview back in July was top notch. So far I’m really happy with my choice and if anyone has any concerns or questions about Horizon’s program I’d be happy to help answer them. 

 

-Shawn


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Lindsey
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29/09/2018 5:46 pm  

Outstanding response, thanks! That’s quite the $$ difference between schools, sounds like you really did your research. Looking forward to seeing updates!


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Harambe
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16/10/2018 4:31 pm  

Day 1:

Orientation was today. The whole presentation geared towards the foreign students, and those who have never flown before. I was the only RTP student of about 20 people, and of those 20 only 7 were domestic students. They show you around the airfield, classrooms, big wig offices, flight planning, and dispatch. Safety talks to you, and so does the Director of Training. All of this lasted about 2.5 hrs, and then then they feed you, then send you on your way to set your schedule through their online scheduling. Fairly painless. The only document that I gave a copy of, was my medical certificate.


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Lindsey
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16/10/2018 8:29 pm  
Posted by: Harambe

Day 1:

Orientation was today. The whole presentation geared towards the foreign students, and those who have never flown before. I was the only RTP student of about 20 people, and of those 20 only 7 were domestic students. They show you around the airfield, classrooms, big wig offices, flight planning, and dispatch. Safety talks to you, and so does the Director of Training. All of this lasted about 2.5 hrs, and then then they feed you, then send you on your way to set your schedule through their online scheduling. Fairly painless. The only document that I gave a copy of, was my medical certificate.

@harambe, if you can keep up these updates, that would be tremendously helpful for future RTAGers looking to go your same route. Great post.


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Harambe
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18/10/2018 7:08 pm  

Day 2:

I waited in anticipation, desperately hoping a schedule would magically appear on Hillsboro Aero Academy's (HAA) proprietary scheduling App. But, alas, I still have no instructor or schedule. I have emailed Martin Burns... who was the RTP rep when I interviewed with Horizon, however I am hearing that there may have been a shift to a new rep. I make best use of my time and study the FARs and HAA's SOP which is fairly restrictive. I am hoping that Sapper and I are able to change it for the better.

Fingers crossed for a start date tomorrow...


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Harambe
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25/10/2018 6:53 pm  

Day 9:

The new RTP contact for Horizon is Ryan Mohammed. He reached out to me today, and should be getting an instructor in the next couple of days, which means I'll start flying as well. Weather in the Pacific Northwest (PNW) is going to be a battle, but here's hoping there will be enough of a break to get completed by January. 


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Harambe
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15/11/2018 1:11 pm  

Day 30:

I had hoped to be a LOT farther along than I am. Scheduling is a bit of a shit show at HAA. Not only that my instructor seems to be afraid to fly when weather is VFR but marginal, however this could be a school policy. So all told I have flown 1.4 hrs, I have had about 5 requested flights, and 2 of those were cancelled for no airplane. The other 3 the instructor cancelled due to weather, of those 1 was marginal VFR, 1 was low IFR, and 1 was straight up VFR with haze. Guess I have time to do my laundry today.


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rabbo
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15/11/2018 1:58 pm  

Wow! That is really painfully slow. Is this with you training "full time"?


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Harambe
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16/11/2018 7:31 pm  

Rabbo - yes I’m retired and have made it clear that I am available everyday. I think it would be less of a pain if my CFI scheduled our flights a couple of days in advance. 


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Harambe
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12/12/2018 4:39 pm  

Day 57:

Let this be a tale to those looking to start training for Horizon in the winter. I now total 5 hours. Hillsboro Aero Academy is risk adverse, and if there is even a FEW layer near the airport the flight is likely to be cancelled. If you are in the solo phase they will likely restrict all solo pilots from flying. On another note, most CFI's are overloaded with students. My particular instructor has had up to 12 at one time. I have also learned that the DPE situation isn't any better than anywhere else. Something like a 2 month wait list. Horizon has been fairly proactive with sending out emails to answer questions or concerns. One day I will be a real boy...

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Joe.Roland
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12/12/2018 7:54 pm  

wow. Really sorry to hear about that.  One of the things I told my students was that MVFR crap is helicopter stuff.  You can fly MVFR, don't get me wrong, but you're in a completely different aircraft now, don't do that during your solo time unless you're just staying in the traffic pattern. On the other hand, if each CFI is overloaded with students and they're afraid of clouds at your school, it's going to be a really long train up. 5hrs in 60 days, I think I would have been looking for another school 30 days ago.


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Harambe
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14/12/2018 3:17 pm  

I'm committed at this point, this is more of a cautionary tale to anyone who is planning on using HAA in the winter. I've already excepted Horizons money, and spent a little of it. Oregon weather in the winter sucks, and weather near the Columbia gorge is even worse. HAA runs a fairly tight ship, however a lot of their instructors are young guys. My Instructor has personally told me that flying in less that 5 miles visibility is his personal limit. I was hoping it was around 3 miles. 

I am now up to 8.3 in 60 days... Knocked out my night XC last night. Progress!


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